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The Chinese Dota 2<\/em> scene has been experiencing a slump in recent years<\/a>. Amidst ongoing discussions<\/a> about the reasons behind the decline, Team Secret\u2019s veteran captain Puppey has weighed in with his thoughts on Gorgc’s stream.<\/p>

Puppey attributed China’s underwhelming tournament results to the increasing popularity of streaming as a profession in the region. According to Puppey, this trend has resulted in many talented Dota 2<\/em> players in China choosing to become streamers instead of pursuing a professional career, leading to a decrease in the overall talent pool in the country.<\/p>

\u201cI feel like every Chinese Dota 2<\/em> player just dreams of streaming,\u201d Puppey said. \u201cIn China, they earn 20 times the number we get to earn from streaming.\u201d<\/p>

As an example, Puppey mentioned Jiang “YYF” Cen, who won The International 2012 and continued competing actively until 2014. Since then, YYF transitioned into one of China’s most lucrative Dota 2<\/em> streamers, \u201cchilling with his 15 million money bags a year,\u201d according to Puppey.<\/p>

While Puppey addressed the number of players exiting competitive\u00a0Dota 2<\/em>, he also argued that this wasn’t entirely bad for the scene. For streaming to outperform professional play in terms of earnings, there must be a healthy and thriving\u00a0Dota 2<\/em>\u00a0scene that would tune into watching these streamers.<\/p>

Puppey expressed how he didn’t appreciate people dumbing down the situation and claiming the Chinese Dota 2<\/em> scene was struggling due to other games like League of Legends<\/em> and mobile gaming. \u201cIf a guy can just stream and make millions of dollars every year, that means that they have a good scene,\u201d Puppey said.<\/p>

The conversation took a darker turn after Gorgc started asking about earning differences between streaming in the west and China, to which Puppey replied with a single word, corruption.<\/p>

\u201cFrom the facts that I do know, some streaming platforms were taken down for faking their numbers,\u201d Puppey replied. \u201cEvery time someone shows me a Chinese streaming website, it’s a new website.\u201d<\/p>

While veteran professional players like YYF, Ame, and Sccc are earning huge amounts of money through streaming, their absence has caused the Chinese\u00a0Dota 2<\/em>\u00a0scene to lag behind its competitors, and this looks like a trend that might not reverse any time soon.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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